Curse

ensoriki · Feb 01, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

That combo is known as a Yanssassin. www.putfile.com/yanman or http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ferrerid=92302

since when the hell did that combo get a name when it was used since factions came out -_-

Yanman.be · Feb 01, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03

The specific MOI BLS TF FS HOTO MS combo has been advertised by me untill everyone was sick of it. Ask around.

riojin · Feb 01, 2007, 10:27 AM // 10:27

i use on my sin (not a/mo)
unsuspecting strike
wild strike
horns of the ox
falling spider
twisting fangs

that combo usually kills anything unguarded

i usually have as an elite flashing blades and always carry a res sig
when using a/e i use a shocking upgrade and conjure lightning
when using a/n i use plague touch
when using a/w i use burst of agression and use the elite where you cant be blocked or evaded (way of the fox?) and burst of agression

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i like yans sin because its easy on the energy. maybe for spider hunting a prot bond/shadow refuge combo to and maybe another heal.

just a thought
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Legendary Battousai · Feb 01, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Balthazar's Pendulum comes to my mind...

Balthazar's Pendulum, Falling Spider, Twisting Fangs...

GOGOGO!!!!

Backspace496 · Feb 01, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

the problem with assassins in PvE is that they suck. they are only good for 1v1 combat, making them shine in PvP. but in PvE, you have to get youur whole chain off and until u hit w/ moebius strike, youre a useless party member til ur skills recharge. this happens al ot, seeing as u have 8 members in ur party, and u wont be able to get off moi-bls-tf-fs-hoto-ms before ur target dies. even with shock, youll be at negative energy in no time. does anyone agree with me, or are there any ways to counter assassin uselessness in PvE. i tried ur build, yanman, and i got it off like 5 times in a whole mission... other than that i was just a wasted party member. idk why, but sins are a bit iffy.

Pick Me · Feb 01, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

The specific MOI BLS TF FS HOTO MS combo has been advertised by me untill everyone was sick of it. Ask around.

Yup.

Yanman.be has been tooting his own horn for quite some time. The Yanssassin has been around for a while. When he first posted, I thought, great, I guy who so full of himself. Just look at that avatar. Anyway, over a period of time you'll see why he is (at least I see him as) an expert and very knowledgable when it comes to Assassins. So I no longer see him as a "know it all", but a knowledgeble person who shares his insights and findings with others.

Lol, Internet. · Feb 01, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

If you don't have nf like me the only choices to use falling spider are Mark of instability, horns of the ox, iron palm and scorpion wire.. or you can use entangling asp, which is pointless to use falling spider after as it does the same thing. For the two you will need to invest in some attributes in deadly arts.. which many see as a waste because they want to keep conditions going as long as possible/getting critical hits

You should try using possibly dark prison then iron palm, before doing the falling spider chain, but you will have to add as it's unlikely to kill. Maybe impale, and hope they give it a boost this weekend again. ^^

Backspace496 · Feb 01, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35

again, i do have nightfall, and i believe shadow prison is a waste of an elite AND its in deadly arts. guys, this is what im asking for:

i have all campaigns, all i need is a quick, reliable way to pull off twisting fangs in PvE, preferably accompanied with either falling spider or black spider strike. and then finish with moebius. i was thinking: MoI>black spider strike>twisting fangs>moebius. i believe this is ok for pve, as its only 3 attacks and u can pull it off. u can even add in black lotus strike for e-management and its still only 5 skills long. like this:

[skill]mark of instability[/skill]
[skill]black spider strike[/skill]
[skill]black lotus strike[/skill]
[skill]twisting fangs[/skill]
[skill]moebius strike[/skill]
[skill]feigned neutrality[/skill]
[skill]mending touch[/skill]
[skill]rebirth[/skill]

dagger mastery - 11,3,1
critical strikes - 12,1
shadow arts - 6,1

wat ya think?

jesh · Feb 02, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

If you're playing PvE, your monks have condition removal, so Mending Touch goes bye. Rebirth is a caster res, take a res sig. There goes your monk secondary.
I also question 2 offhands with only 1 hex that isn't recharged with your elite.
To tell you the truth, I'd rather use Black Spider->Twisting->Black Lotus->Blades of Steel. Use Assassin's Promise to renew everything and make up any lost energy. Mark of Instability will also be recharged, should you decide to use it.
Assassin's Promise also renews Feigned Neutrality. It also renews anything else.
If you're really bad at playing an assassin, you can take both FN and Dark Escape to gain an equivalent of 300 armor, renewed with every death.
If you only want to use Moebius, at least take a hex with a better recharge. You can then ditch Black Spider and take another more damaging dual attack. Twisting Fangs spam is very low damage.
The build you have posted will only be able to pull of 1 combo every 20 seconds, despite having Moebius as an elite.

Yanman, what do you feel about the changes to Impale? Worth ditching TF?

Yanman.be · Feb 02, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31

I don't think you can compare those 2. TF is a dual attack in se( and thus having all benefits/downsides of a melee attack ), and Impale needs to follow one. I guess it's nice in a Moebius Strke-Death Blossom-Impale in pve combo.

Also, TF triggers the deep wound by itself: First hit applies deep wound, second hit activates it. Impale still needs a hit after that.

Backspace496 · Feb 02, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26

ok here we go again!!!

[skill]Mark of Instability[/skill]
[skill]Black Spider Strike[/skill]
[skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill]
[skill]Black Lotus Strike[/skill]
[skill]Blades of Steel[/skill]
[skill]Assassin's Promise[/skill]
[skill]burst of aggression[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

dagger mastery - 11,3,1
crit strikes - 12,1
deadly arts - 6,1

a/w

ok?!!?!?!?!

Yanman.be · Feb 02, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

Depends how you use your hexes.